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  1. #11
    herefishy, game ranch operators that specialize on hogs often also specialize in what I like to call working man's hunts. Hunts for a couple hundred a weekend let you leave with a couple decent eating sized hogs and a smile. The reason that these game ranches cannot simply suck up the extra cost of testing everyboar that comes through the gates and then then up their prices to cover it is thatif that happens the days of a weekend lease that a working man can afford are over. If the ranches loose those hunts, they go under, and another business bites the dust. I am shocked, absolutely shocked,that you cannot see that. Right now the buying stations have no competition, no reason to pay a decent pricefor feral hogs because they are the only ones buying hogs, and the only ones allowed to buy female hogs. If the game ranches were back to buying, prices would go up and folks would go back to trapping, or tying dog caught hogs instead of sticking them.

  2. #12
    herefishy
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    catchrcall wrote... herefishy, game ranch operators that specialize on hogs often also specialize in what I like to call working man's hunts. Hunts for a couple hundred a weekend let you leave with a couple decent eating sized hogs and a smile. The reason that these game ranches cannot simply suck up the extra cost of testing everyboar that comes through the gates and then then up their prices to cover it is thatif that happens the days of a weekend lease that a working man can afford are over. If the ranches loose those hunts, they go under, and another business bites the dust. I am shocked, absolutely shocked,that you cannot see that. Right now the buying stations have no competition, no reason to pay a decent pricefor feral hogs because they are the only ones buying hogs, and the only ones allowed to buy female hogs. If the game ranches were back to buying, prices would go up and folks would go back to trapping, or tying dog caught hogs instead of sticking them. Yes Catch, However it would seem that the operator that depends on the (native) population would most be inclined to engage in the "working man's hunt". The fellows paying $300.00 per boar are pursuing a different market - not bubba's weekend hog hunt for some pork chops. The regualations that are being questioned are relating to importation of swine onto someone's property. Nate indicates that the limitation of only disease free boars to the exclusion of sows and gilts are affecting the (high-end) game ranch industry, and what I am trying to understand is what the reasoning is behing the limitations on the relocation of the sows and gilts (byt the TAHC under the direction of the USDA)... which (Nate) seems to be concerned about.' ???????????????? That's the information that I am looking for.... Mark

  3. #13
    As I understand it the reason game ranches can't buy sows and gilts is because they are the "piglet factories". In a perfect TAHC double fenced , disease tested, and boar only world, a game ranch would not have a breeding population. No sows means no piglets and no piglets means no hogs later on to escape and add to the population. one sow could ruin that in a years time. I think the basic logic is that if the trapped sows are killed and only boars are sold to a game ranch, both will end up at a "terminal" destination, and the population will still decline. not sure if it's gonna work out that way, but who knows.

  4. #14
    Let me try to express my concerns here so that everyone understands where Iam coming from. tach said ranches could no longer buy sows to "control the population" As Catchrcall stated, now buying stations have no competition and don't pay squat so trappers are not trapping and sows are dropping litters everyday. If ranchers were allowed to buy sows, the would still be a decent effort in controlling the numbers were there is NO EFFORTNOW. In short, tach's plan has backfired. Itried to target two different types of hunters. 1. The "working man" busting his butt to make ends meet but still wantinf an affordable hunt. 2. The "higher paid"(if you will) that did not consider money to be a factor. With the tach regs, Icould not keep a fresh supply of targets so 50% of my client base disipates. What makes me mad Mark, is that you have the mindset that you don't care about small business owners trying to make a little extra cash. Your thoughts are "just raise the prices and roll with it" You don't understand or don't care that game ranches are trying to do their part in helping to control the hog numbers but now our hands are tied. This is the problem Ihave with you and untill you start acting like a concerend hunter instead of a govt. official, I'm not gonna change my opinion. If it makes you mad, Idon't care. If I'm asked to leave here, so beit; but I am sick and tired of folks making game ranches to look like the bad guy.

  5. #15
    herefishy
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    I'm not mad. I seem however to be on the receiving end of some hostility regarding my posts in this subject matter... but that doesn't bother me... this is only the internet, and it is easy to to misinterpret or misrepresent the tone of what one is communicating in a medium such as this (bulletin board). I'm not bothered. Kind Regards, Mark

  6. #16
    FORGET THE GOVERNMENT. We should just hunt. I ain't a rancher, don't own land either. I ain't got the money to shop at cabela's (lie) IJUST WANT TO HOG HUNT WITH A FEW BROS FROM THE SITE. Can we just let the powers-that-be regulate, while we hunt????

  7. #17
    I Agree with squirt 190% Cant we just all get along and hunt together. I for one dont care about the ranches or import export of hogs. I just want to put some food on the table and some meat in the freezer.

  8. #18
    Jason wrote... I Agree with squirt 190% Cant we just all get along and hunt together. I for one dont care about the ranches or import export of hogs. I just want to put some food on the table and some meat in the freezer. With all do respect, 1st let me say thank you for serving our great country. Iunderstand your desire to hunt. I'm not sure Iunderstand your thoughts on game ranches. If it wasn't for game ranches, there would be thousands of folks who might not get the oppertunity to hunt. Ihave spent 10's of thousands of dollars out of my own pocket pursuing my dream which was to have a place where a hard working individual could come and maybe bring their kid for a taste of excitment that can't be found just anywhere. These folks usually don't have time to run around public land in hopes of seeing a hog, but they could come to my place and be guarenteed a hog. Game ranches are not for everyone, but to the ones who rely on them for a good time and a full cooler, they are dang near priceless.

  9. #19
    NO!!!!! We cannot just let the government regulate and go hunt. That's exactly what sportsman and gun owners in england and australia did and they wound up turning in their guns. That kind of attitude is exactly what will loose hunting and firearms ownership for law abiding citizens. As we speak, breed specific legislation and breeding legislation bills are moving through committees right here in texas. What does it matter? written into these bills are often hidden clauses such as a peace officer would not need a warrant to search the home and property of a liscenced kennel. That would effect a lot of sporting dog owners. Look at some of the states on the east coast, and of course california, and even colorado. First they outlaw something like trapping or bear baiting, and they chip away at our sport from their. They have even gotten some states to outlaw dove seasons. The only way we're gonna stop this garbage from happening is to get involved and help to stop it. Join sportsman's organizations, find out who your legislators are and contact them, and do what you can to keep our sports for our kids. Wake up folks, cause it's happening right now.

  10. #20
    Nate, First off thanks for your support its really appreciated. Ihave nothing against game ranches here trust me i would like to own one of my own one day. What i meant was if ranchers wanna breed hogs or import hogs or any wild game let them I for one just wanna be able to hunt wether it be on a ranch or in public land. and with the waythings are getting today with it being harder and harder to find public landI just think it should be up to the owners of the ranches and NOT UNCLESAM who decides were they get their game from and what type of game they want. And also i was just trying to give humor with squirt about everyone arguingback and forth on a topic thats beyond our control as individuals, cause in actuality if we cant come together as one uncle sam aint going to care what we want. thats why i sayLets stop arguing with each other and lets hunt.

 

 

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